Anyway, first things first, a sleuth contacted me from the courthouse of a Tyler

Anyway, first things first, a sleuth contacted me from the courthouse of a Tyler Robinson hearing. They had recorded, they were able to record Tyler Robinson's grandfather while he was having a conversation with the reporter, Elizabeth Lane. Now, out of courtesy, I did alert Elizabeth Lane that I was sent this and that I was in possession of the recording and that I intended to use it. She said that she had already sort of spoken about her conversation with him. So I think we are in the all clear here, but apparently there was a break during the hearing and someone was lingering behind Tyler's grandfather and group of people as he spoke to Elizabeth. And what he has to say is quite interesting. And foremost, before we play it, I want to just say that his presence in general should interest you, right? Because we have been told by many liars on the internet that Tyler Robinson's family does not support him. To the contrary, they turned him in, remember? They recognized grandpa's gun on the news, dad or mom recognized grandpa's gun on the news, which is weird because the news did not actually release a photo of grandpa's gun. They just released a photo of something similar. Anyways, the story goes, according to the liars, that they then convinced him to turn himself in. They think their son's guilty. They're going to testify against him. Now, I have told you from the very beginning that that is simply not true, that his father does not believe that he did it. His grandmother has spoken to journalists and she said that she does not believe that he did it. Rather, and also I should say, Sheriff Brooksby did admit that rather the truth is that Tyler Robinson was essentially coerced to go in, right?

We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way, sort of a situation. He and his family were told that they were going to make an arrest either way. And if he didn't want the SWAT team or whoever it is that comes in to bang down the door and hold him, hold a weapon to his face and put his parents at risk, then he better do things the easy way. Like I said, the question here is what does his grandfather think? Because he knows that gun. It's his gun, right? It's a family heirloom. It is his gun or was his gun before it was passed down to Tyler Robinson. So he knows that weapon better than anyone. Let's take a listen. And of course, I'm accounting for sound. We've tried to use AI, bring the voices up and get rid of the background sound. Here's what his grandfather had to say briefly at the hearing. What are you guys for Tyler? What are you for Tyler or the other side? Grandparents. Oh, your grandparents? Oh. I'm really sorry you're going through this. Yeah. It's tough for you guys. Yeah, it sucks. We're here to support them. Yeah. We think your grandchild is absolutely different, but I'm an investigative journalist. Well, I do too. I'm a hundred and I don't want to forget what you do. Man, you know, you're a gun. And I can tell you that you're very right. That's right. Yeah. And my dad was a cop for years. Yeah. He showed me all of this. Well, hold up. Hold up. Granddad says that he is here to support. He's here to support his grandson. It sounds like he is of the same opinion as Tyler Robinson's grandmother, that he did not do this, that he was not capable of doing this. And for clarity, grandpa asserts that he himself is a hunter, right? He also says that his father, so that would be Tyler Robinson's great-grandfather, was a cop for a while in that town who taught him ballistics.

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